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Hi Everyone,

Over the years, I’ve worked with various CMS platforms and frameworks, but I’ve found DNN to be one of the best in terms of customization and flexibility.

However, I’ve noticed a concerning trend: the demand for DNN-related work on online job portals seems to have significantly declined. A few years ago, it was easy to find jobs for DNN sites or module development. Now, such opportunities have become quite rare.

Is this something the community has observed and discussed? Are there any efforts being made to address this shift, or is this simply a misinterpretation on my part?

Looking forward to your thoughts.

3ART TechnologiesRegards,
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Hi 3Art,

We have discussed this many times at several summits/connects and online. The answer has multiple parts:

  • Yes, the market has been declining. In fact, this is true for alle CMSses. The number of systems has exploded and stabelized in a scattered way. The amount of vendors has also declined and now stabelized. How many kind of sliders or article modules can one want?
  • Where your market is (stable/declining) is very much dependant on your geographical location
  • There are countries where you can still make a living with 'simple display websites' but in many countries this is not enough. That market went to Wordpress, Wix and Squarespace
  • Upside is that DNN is specialized in websites 'that do more than just being pretty'. With a very professional community with mainly developers, this is the sweet spot. To increase the footprint, several modules are available to speed up the process. Think of OpenContent, 2SXC, Plant an App, EasyDNN Solutions and the Mandeeps suite.
  • There are currently 2 hurdles: 
    • DNN is still Webforms. We need a path towards .NET Core. 
    • We need larger corporations to become implementators. At least in Europe, there is no corp or government body that will buy services from a company of 10-20 people.
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While there's a lot of truth of what Tycho has posted, depending on your region, we continue to receive inbound DNN development requests without any marketing. 🤷🏽‍♂️
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We are working on the request also but we are going to suggest DNN once some one asking a web-based system but the point is if you will observe the open market like upwork, freelancer the projects are will be no project for DNN

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I have worked with WIX and WordPress. The only concern I think still exists with DNN is the speed issue. I think DNN should come up with some kind of idea that if you make a website, the mobile app will be ready automatically, which would change the scenario completely.   The DNN already have a web API development functionality because I am developing a module by a web API layer and this layer will connect my frontend module and mobile app why does not DNN come up with something automatically that if a user creates a website the mobile app will be automatically created and allow them to publish it on stores.   

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I appreciate your suggestions. However, the assumption that "... why does not DNN come up with something automatically ..." implies that a commercial entity manages DNN and has the resources to invest in such developments. In reality, that’s not the case. Every addition or change to DNN is made by volunteers who either see a need for improvement or are sponsored to implement changes.

I don’t want to discourage suggestions like this—I just want to provide a realistic perspective.

 

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I think the key issue is in "why does not DNN come up with something automatically that if a user creates a website the mobile app will be automatically created and allow them to publish it on stores. "

DNN Corp is no longer a relevant factor. About 4 to 5 years ago, the DNN community got the driver seat and is running the platform. So, everything you download, all questions asked and answered...it is all community work. So, thank you for participating :-) 

Back to your question: it would make sense to have a boiler plate app where the content is managed by DNN. In the past David Poindexter has created something like this, using Ionic (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi_d0KVd8_k) , there is the PWA video of 10Pound Gorilla (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrlP-f59VA8) and last year EasyDNN created https://www.easydnnsoluti...h-easydnn-pwa-module

Why is it not default present? Well, last couple of years the tendency was to trim DNN core down, so there is less code to maintain and migrate if we find a path towards .NET Core. That's why new features were developed as extensions instead of part of Core.

All in all: if you feel, this is something that needs to be picked up, feel free to create a Github issue on https://github.com/dnnsof.../Dnn.Platform/issues For larger projects changes are that sponsoring is needed, if you are dependant on other developers. Currently, for instance, I am sponsoring 'DNN Tokens'. This way I am sure it gets the priority I need.

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3ART,

Just to add more context to this conversation: I think each agency reality it's soooo different because this is a worldwide ecosystem with experts from all over the world in so many different areas and the common smart decision from all of us is: DNN!

I think the ecosystem its getting bigger and stronger, you can just take a look at how ferquent a new DNN release its published (https://github.com/dnnsof....Platform/releases); last year we had a total of 11 verified releases (almost one per month!)

I do believe each agency must find the best formula to include DNN in their services; if you're able to do this then you've a solid-trustworthy-secure platform your clients will benefit from by just deciding to use DNN. 

I invite you to read the following recent articles by David:

Regards.

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Sorry, the second article I just shared is from Ryan Moore :-)

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This question has been asked since DNN has existed.  We'd even have to field this question when DNN had more verifiable website instances online, except Wordpress.  I know this, because I worked at DNN Corp at the time.  DNN hasn't gone anywhere and won't for the foreseeable future. 

For example, here at Upendo, we still have clients who come to us, having already done a vetting process of their own and choosing DNN. Though, when a client hasn't mentioned DNN, I don't either.  You should never sell the software.  You should sell the solution.  If the solution fulfills all of the requirements, the client rarely cares what's running it.  

Point blank - There isn't a better and more flexible website solution that can grow with the success of a business on the Microsoft stack.  

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